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Nothing makes more sense?

@viber

"some people think 'nothing' created the universe"

who?

@mk

What are your ideas on how the universe was created?

@viber

here's the thing about non-religious people.

we're fine to say: "i don't know. we'll eventually find out."

@mk

We'll find out for sure!

Some atheists are VERY sure of their beliefs, and also feel the need to evangelize.

@viber

yeah. one of them was called Giordano Bruno and got burned alive by the church.

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turns out he was right.
the sun does not orbit the earth.

@mk

Surely you are not saying Atheists never killed religious people in nasty ways?

@mk

Or maybe that Atheists are more moral than religious people?

@viber

i'd say that only authoritarian collectivists (collective > individuals) kill "for the common good".

@mk

Given your statements in this thread, it seems then you are arguing that believing in God makes a group of people more likely to "kill for the common good".

If that's the argument, it's fucking retarded.

mk

@viber

it's not like..a conspiracy theorie..its fucking history.

the 7 crusades

First Crusade (1095-1099)
Second, (1147-1149)
Third, (1189-1192)
and Fourth Crusade (1202-1204)
Children's Crusade (1212)
Fifth Crusade (1228-1229) Crusade of Damietta (1217-1221)
Sixth Crusade (1248-1254)
Seventh/Last Crusade (1270)

@mk

Been here before brother, it's tired.

1. Both sides of those crusades believed in God.

2. Your next response will be that Communist countries were not actually Atheist.

@mk

It is completely rational to switch your arguments to fit your feelings.

They need your protection.

It's just a waste of time for me to try and follow along with them.

@viber

what do all of these have in common?

- tribes
- religions
- cults
- nations
- politial parties

a "us vs them"-mindset that's easily exploitable to hypermoralize the members into commiting violence.

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robert sapolsky: "when we think of the neighboring tribe as loathsome cockroaches."
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you asked: "Atheists are more moral than religious people?"

my answer: no, but individuals who reject group-think are...and these people are usually also atheists.

@viber

who are these "individuals who reject group-think"?

1. people who fought back against the nazi regime.

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2. people who are still fighting back against the covid-tyranny.

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