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@threat

you can only use androids with custom roms in 2023...fuck everything else.

@threat @GrapheneOS

you're sure that france can't make google push you over-the-air updates to make your phone spy on you?

@mk @threat @GrapheneOS I mean...The fact that the Pixel is Google-branded hardware is plenty of reason to think that the phone is backdoored, GrapheneOS or not. Just maybe Graphene makes it a little harder for the smaller fish to get in on the spying action.
mk

@victor @threat @GrapheneOS

objection facts not in evidence
objection speculation

@mk @victor @GrapheneOS

as much as google is a privacy-nightmare their hardware is very good from security posture. there's a reason why graphene chose the platform. it wasn't circumstance.

on long enough timeline you have to instill some form of trust with your hardware. i have no issue trusting google pixel at this time. but i find i spend less time on handset and more time on laptop. just a personal preference.
@mk @threat @GrapheneOS It is speculation, as are all things security-related, but when mass-produced devices have been backdoored at the hardware level (see: Intel Management Engine or Cisco backdoors for example), any software layered on top is a placebo or maybe a slightly better spy filter than the stock OS.

It's all been pwned, best policy is to just find a faraday bag that works (none of them do lolol) and only use your phone in emergencies, which is anathema to today's world.